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INS Vikramaditya sails without air defenses

A vulnerability that the Indian Navy cannot afford to tolerate if their carrier group sails within strike range of an enemy with an air force adept at attacking surface ships...Defense Industry...

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pppet wrote:And she is not going to rust to pieces any more than ex-HMS Hercules or ex-HMS Hermes have.No, but her bow may come off if she gets into bad enough weather.

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Phill 5 5 3 wrote:I think the best option is for the Indians to keep Viraat in good condition then when the new QE class is built offer a trade in for the second ship alterd to there specs.India get a...

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Phill 5 5 3 wrote: I think the best option is for the Indians to keep Viraat in good condition then when the new QE class is built offer a trade in for the second ship alterd to there specs.India get...

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Beastro of Nektulos wrote:pppet wrote:And she is not going to rust to pieces any more than ex-HMS Hercules or ex-HMS Hermes have.No, but her bow may come off if she gets into bad enough weather.Well,...

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Well the QEC will only have CIWS for protection. So it's marginally better than the Indian carrier.

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The accepted wisdom for carrier defence is that defence is provided by: 1). Its aircraft. 2). Its escorts. 3). For anything that got past both then close in AA on the carrier itself. So both Vikky and...

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If I understand correctly,, "Vikky" eventually will have SAMs installed. QEC only will get Phalanx CIWS. Aster/CAMM on it is a dream.   

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The Indian Navy uses better paint than the Russians. 

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Eventually is the operative word.But AK-630'swill be installed.

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Will eventually also describe the QEC--or will they be stuck with only CIWS forever?

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Supposing the Chinese make an interesting offer for one of the QE's ? Would it be seriously entertained or summarily dismissed after waiting for a decent period so as not to give unnecessary offence ?

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They tried with one of the Invincibles; I think the pretext was turning it into a floating casino. Even if the British took the proposal under consideration, the Americans would veto it. The Chinese...

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The USA wouldn't have a veto. They could have asked, emphatically, & the UK would probably co-operate, but I think that would have been voluntary. I doubt there was anything on any of the...

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China for the QECs? All hell will break loose--in the UK. I believe the eventual PLAN dream carrier will be CATOBAR so they won't want an oversized STOVL carrier.

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Jeneral28 wrote:China for the QECs? All hell will break loose--in the UK. I believe the eventual PLAN dream carrier will be CATOBAR so they won't want an oversized STOVL carrier.All hell would break...

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Would it be possible to modify a Su-27 for STOBAR operations ?

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bgile wrote:Jeneral28 wrote:China for the QECs? All hell will break loose--in the UK. I believe the eventual PLAN dream carrier will be CATOBAR so they won't want an oversized STOVL carrier. All hell...

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pppet wrote:Would it be possible to modify a Su-27 for STOBAR operations ? Isn't the Su-27 heavier than the Mig-29?

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The Russian's operate the Su-33 which is an Su-27 variant from Kuznetsov. However, they have ordered MiG-29Ks to replace them.

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pppet wrote:Would it be possible to modify a Su-27 for STOBAR operations ?Civ101 wrote:The Russian's operate the Su-33 which is an Su-27 variant from Kuznetsov. However, they have ordered MiG-29Ks to...

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